607 date of Jerusalems destruction

by benny in

i am confused about the time scale regarding the year of the destruction of jerusalem.

in the 1st october 2011 watchtower an argument is presented to back up 607 bc but there are so many conflicting arguments that this happened 20 years later according to secular sources.

your thoughts please..

The Fall Guy

7 times = 7 years

7 years = 7 x 360 = 2520 years

2520 years added to 607 = 1914 (no year zero)

1914 = End of the Gentile times - Seemples.

Except................our 365 day year seems to make a complete nonsense of it all.

Not forgetting the Armageddon predictions of 1914, 1915, 1925, 1975, within the 20th century, and now - very soon, so near, just ahead, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us.”

Added: "Fool me all of my life, you've become my god."

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Brand New Shoes

by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

jw
friends

i'm debuting these at the meeting sunday.

all the other brothers will be jealous of me, and all of the sisters will want to date me with a view to marriage.

don't try to talk me out of it.

The Fall Guy

You've just outed yourself, Rumpelstiltskin.

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Another major historical JW lie!

by Crazyguy2 in

remember when we were younger we would read in their books or even see a drama on how jerusalem was surrounded by romans armies in 66 ce then one night they were just gone.

jewish rebels even chased them killing many as they left.

this i guessed fulfilled a prophecy in mathew and then the true followers of jesus would see this a know to flee to the mountains as the unfaithful stayed in jerusalem thinking all was well and the romans were gone for good until 4 years later they returned destroyed the city killing most of the inhabitants including unfaithful christians that didn’t heed the warning.

The Fall Guy

Perhaps this will help clarify the historical record.

The Roman forces retreated from JERUSALEM in 66 CE but then returned to JUDEA the following year in April 67 CE, destroying towns and people, before finally tackling Jerusalem in 70 CE.

So Christians in JUDEA in 66 CE only had a few short months in which to get out of Judea. Those in Jerusalem would have risked their lives by delaying their escape in 66 CE..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish–Roman_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cestius_Gallus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galilee_campaign_(67)

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wedding anniversarys

by zeb in

jw
friends

who makes anything of this?

we live under the same roof but separate lives so i dont.

and no flowers either as the it was two days after the last convention she went to that she noticed the last lot.. so.. incoming please..

The Fall Guy

At an event I recently attended, I assured two committed JW's that the only "persecution" I ever received after being baptised, was from JW's - especially from the Elders in both of my congregations.

The cult mentality & dictatorship was clear to see, but I couldn't see it at the time because I was so dedicated to "following the direction of the "slave."

To all JW's - do you genuinely still believe that you are in a clean, theocratic organization - God's organization - or do you now realize that you are just a source of "sustenance" for a global corporate leech?

The WTBTS gambled the org's resources on Wall St. - and lost big time! Waken up to the real truth.

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Wedding Rings.

by Lost in the fog in

we have long queried why so-called things of pagan or religious origin like christmas or easter are banned by the wts but the use of wedding rings were not.. i was talking about this with a friend who follows a wiccan path of belief and he has sent me the following information from one of his magic magazines.. quote: .

" why do we wear our wedding ring on our ‘ring finger’ ?

thus, to properly activate the ring finger we need to wear a golden ring on it.

The Fall Guy

Why doesn't the org ban JW's from using certain months of the year or days of the week?

January Named after the Roman god of beginnings and endings Janus. Latin Januarius (mensis).

February The name either derives from the old-Italian god Februus or else from februa, signifying the festivals of purification celebrated in Rome during this month.

March This is the first month of the Roman year. It is named after the Roman god of war, Mars. Latin Martius (mensis).

May The third month of the Roman calendar. The name probably comes from Maiesta, the Roman goddess of honor and reverence. Latin Maius (mensis).

June The fourth month was named in honor of Juno. However, the name might also come from iuniores (young men; juniors) as opposed to maiores (grown men; majors) for May, the two months being dedicated to young and old men. Latin Junius (mensis).

July It was the month in which Julius Caesar was born, and named Julius in his honor in 44 BCE, the year of his assassination. Also called Quintilis (fifth month). Latin Julius (mensis).

August Originally this month was called Sextilis (from sextus, "six"), but the name was later changed in honor of the first of the Roman emperors, Augustus (because several fortunate events of his life occurred during this month).

Sunday The name comes from the Latin dies solis, meaning "sun's day," the name of a pagan Roman holiday. It is also called Dominica (Latin), the Day of God.

Monday The name comes from Old English Mōnandæg, "the moon's day". This second day was sacred to the goddess of the moon.

Tuesday This day was named after the Norse god Tyr, from Old English Tīwesdæg. The Romans named this day after their war-god Mars: dies Marti.

Wednesday The day named to honor Wodan (Odin), from Old English Wōdnesdæg. The Romans called it Mercurii dies, after their god Mercury.

Thursday Old English Thu(n)resdæg. The day named after the Norse god Thor; in the Norse languages it is called Torsdag. The Romans named this day Jovis dies ("Jove's Day"), after Jove or Jupiter, their most important god.

Friday Old English Frīgedæg, the day in honor of the Norse goddess Frigg. To the Romans this day was sacred to the goddess Venus, and was known as Veneris dies.

Saturday This day was called Saturni dies, "Saturn's Day," by the ancient Romans in honor of Saturn.

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XJW Activsm

by oppostate in

have you ever done xjw activism?.

do you find it rewarding?.

do you feel it has an effect?.

The Fall Guy

I firmly believe in the saying, "It takes a thief to catch a thief."

The "awakened" should assist the "sleeping" by helping them to hear the alarm bell gently and gradually.

It took years of repetition of dogmas for the org to perform their mind-changing agenda, so don't expect to find a magic bullet. Just ask viewpoint questions - as you were taught to do in the Ministry School - and wait for the hesitant and mumbled answers which will inevitably not be accompanied by scriptural backing!

For example, "Why does your "faithful slave" teach that foreigners were not participants of the Law Covenant, when God Almighty said that they were?" (Deuteronomy 29:10-15)

If someone just wants to vent and feel as if they've achieved a modicum of revenge by turning up at memorials, conventions, etc. just to cause a commotion, that's their choice. Ultimately, the onlookers will feel vindicated for shunning such "evil apostates" IMO.

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Celtic Football Club Create World Record

by The Fall Guy in

they have just won all 3 major competitions in their country for the 3rd year in a row.. sadly, this feat serves to demonstrates how sad scottish football has become.. they are simply the best of a bad bunch in scotland, and each year invariably exit the uefa champions league with a whimper..

The Fall Guy

I predicted 20 years ago that for many years to come, Scotland would not qualify for either the World Cup finals or the European Championship finals. Sigh - I was right, and it will probably be so for many more years.

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Celtic Football Club Create World Record

by The Fall Guy in

they have just won all 3 major competitions in their country for the 3rd year in a row.. sadly, this feat serves to demonstrates how sad scottish football has become.. they are simply the best of a bad bunch in scotland, and each year invariably exit the uefa champions league with a whimper..

The Fall Guy

They have just won all 3 major competitions in their country for the 3rd year in a row.

Sadly, this feat serves to demonstrates how sad Scottish football has become.

They are simply the best of a bad bunch in Scotland, and each year invariably exit the UEFA Champions League with a whimper.

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Recent letter about ldc

by dothemath in

not sure if this is being done in other countries, but here in canada they've just announced the need for holiday trailers for ldc volunteers to use.. they're hoping people will donate these evidently.

not some run-down thing, it's got to be a fairly recent model and also a fifth-wheel.. i guess this is where the more materialistic witnesses will have to step up!.

The Fall Guy

Lying, Deceiving, Charlatans!

aka Local Design Committee (I think)

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I sent in my letter - peace I’m out

by HiddenPimo in

da haters need not apply - thanks for your support.

.

The Fall Guy

Different strokes for different folks. Live life for yourself - not how others think you should.

All the best!

The Fall Guy

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“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us.”

Why doesn't the org ban JW's from using certain months of the year or days of the week?

January Named after the Roman god of beginnings and endings Janus. Latin Januarius (mensis).

February The name either derives from the old-Italian god Februus or else from februa, signifying the festivals of purification celebrated in Rome during this month.

March This is the first month of the Roman year. It is named after the Roman god of war, Mars. Latin Martius (mensis).

May The third month of the Roman calendar. The name probably comes from Maiesta, the Roman goddess of honor and reverence. Latin Maius (mensis).

June The fourth month was named in honor of Juno. However, the name might also come from iuniores (young men; juniors) as opposed to maiores (grown men; majors) for May, the two months being dedicated to young and old men. Latin Junius (mensis).

July It was the month in which Julius Caesar was born, and named Julius in his honor in 44 BCE, the year of his assassination. Also called Quintilis (fifth month). Latin Julius (mensis).

August Originally this month was called Sextilis (from sextus, "six"), but the name was later changed in honor of the first of the Roman emperors, Augustus (because several fortunate events of his life occurred during this month).

Sunday The name comes from the Latin dies solis, meaning "sun's day," the name of a pagan Roman holiday. It is also called Dominica (Latin), the Day of God.

Monday The name comes from Old English Mōnandæg, "the moon's day". This second day was sacred to the goddess of the moon.

Tuesday This day was named after the Norse god Tyr, from Old English Tīwesdæg. The Romans named this day after their war-god Mars: dies Marti.

Wednesday The day named to honor Wodan (Odin), from Old English Wōdnesdæg. The Romans called it Mercurii dies, after their god Mercury.

Thursday Old English Thu(n)resdæg. The day named after the Norse god Thor; in the Norse languages it is called Torsdag. The Romans named this day Jovis dies ("Jove's Day"), after Jove or Jupiter, their most important god.

Friday Old English Frīgedæg, the day in honor of the Norse goddess Frigg. To the Romans this day was sacred to the goddess Venus, and was known as Veneris dies.

Saturday This day was called Saturni dies, "Saturn's Day," by the ancient Romans in honor of Saturn.